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Setting esni to enabled in Firefox partially works.

But Airtel really, really wants to run scripts and show ads on blocked pages.

Duckduckgo - https://i.postimg.cc/SqkRhpRC/Mozilla-Firefox-29-09-20-w-PA....

Pirate Bay - https://i.postimg.cc/qMmwMXVY/t-29-09-20-9-Dv.png


DuckDuckGo is blocked in India??


Yes, ISPs are blocking DDG. Airtel(ISP) is blocking DDG but HTTPS version is accessible.

https://imgur.com/a/y7wnOjD


What reason could they have for blocking DDG? Is it easier to find pirated content there than on Google or something? That's my best guess. I can't imagine they'd block on behalf of a competitor or something.


I suspect it's political censorship/surveillance of some sort. Some suggest it's collateral damage from the ban on Chinese apps. https://www.themobileindian.com/news/duckduckgo-blocked-by-m...

Whether that's a mistake or they've made an enemy of some sort is not clear. India is a democratic country but not an especially free one.


You never know. Could be a mistake where they were trying to block a certain path due to some search result of copyright infringement, but ended up banning the domain itself. One can only guess.

Reddit and Github have previously been temporarily banned in India due to similar "mistakes"



DDG is a strong advocate for user privacy, that might be all it takes.


Is it possible the big guys will provide (sell?) query surveillance feeds to random governments while DDG can't/won't?


even the http version is accessible to me


Not blocked for me on my home and mobile (Jio) connection. I think airtel is just crap. Just switch.


Nope


How do they inject stuff into HTTPS pages?


Unless the site uses certificate pinning its possible to do a downgrade attack that forces browser off of HTTPS. The extension HTTPS Everywhere is a stopgap against this


things that do stuff like this can't, they try whatever tricks are possible to push javascript or redirects to send the client browser to something non https, on port 80


it does say "Not secure" for the https info, so I guess they intercept the request


yeah but not secure is regular http. on https they cannot do that without triggering a browser warning.


Heads up, that site was injected with a ton of malware/adware and redirects. Possibly their ad network got hosed, but that site doesn't seem safe unless you are locked down.


Duckduckgo is blocked in India with Airtel. HTTP url refuses to connect. I have to manually type https://duckduckgo.com to connect.

https://i.postimg.cc/SqkRhpRC/Mozilla-Firefox-29-09-20-w-PA....


Yeah there was a huge outcry about it on Twitter some time back.

P.S. From the screenshot, it looks like you're trying to connect to [http]://duck.., hence shifting to https works.

This also hints towards a mixture of plain old http censorship and https censorship, which Airtel (in fact all ISPs) do randomly


This is not about the block a month ago. This is a new block.

When it was blocked a month ago, there was no notice. Now, there is a notice that it is a TRAI order. usually seen on sites that the govt themselves ask to block (piratebay, torrentz.eu, etc)


I guess its only limited to some regions. I'm using Airtel for my home connection as well mobile and get redirected to https everytime I visit the http version of ddg on both connections.


That's weird. I just get a 301 redirect to the HTTPS version when I visit http://duckduckgo.com.


I also get redirected to the HTTPS site. I think different ISPs block inconsistently.


Airtel is so big they use roaming for their customers. If you have a SIM from Bengaluru and go to Delhi you'll see the little R indicator. That suggests the Airtel business in each state manages at least parts of their network independently. And so the MitMs could be deployed non-uniformly.


India used to be and still is split into several telecom regions with different spectrum leasing, operations and governance.

Until around 2009-10, when you are traveling out of state, you had to pay roaming charges. Worse used to be metro cities within their own states as they used to be different telecom circles. I used to pay roaming charges when going to Chennai from rest of Tamil Nadu. Even the operators were different sometimes. E.g. there was no Hutch (now Vodafone) originally in rest of Tamil Nadu and they operated only in Chennai. Similarly RPG (later Aircel which went bankrupt couple of years back) had 2 networks - RPG in Chennai and Aircel in rest of Tamil Nadu. It used to be a mess.

No operator had pan-India operation as every small operator had their own fiefdoms and the big operators like Airtel used to pay roaming charges to those operators for their subscribers to get signal.

This all slowly went away only early this decade.


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