> In this case it is clearly the former and it requires suppression
That's not clear at all. Why do you say so?
Read the article. "Rich jerk" are Atlassian's words, not the employee's. Even if they are it's not obviously the former.
I refuse to believe anyone, including Oracle employees, likes Larry Ellison.
If Microsoft/Google/Apple fired everyone who badmouthed Satya/Sundar/Tim, half their products would fall apart overnight.
Do you see any, even little sign of constructive criticism in what she said? Anything that could improve corporate culture or help her peers or management to understand the problem? Any hint on how it could be fixed?
I don’t.
> Read the article.
I did read the article and came to the same conclusion as Atlassian.
> I refuse to believe anyone, including Oracle employees, likes Larry Ellison.
When you sign the working contract, your job is to act in the interests of shareholders. If you despise them or disagree with what they do, you can still work there and use your position to align their interests and the interests of the public. You can try to change it from within. But the moment when you decide to burn the bridges is the moment when you should leave. To me this is pretty obvious, and I’m really surprised to see here some sort of entitlement.
"acting in the interests of shareholders" (which, for the record, no employment contract I've ever signed requires) does not mean blind allegiance to management and certainly doesn't mean not calling out bad actions by management.
The employee's statement here was fact. The CEO did harm the careers of employees and did call in to harass them without even bothering to come to a company office.
The CEO, who has much more of an obligation to act in shareholders' interests than an IC, shouldn't be attacking and alienating their labor force.
Yes, and what is the essence of that labor? It is to create profits for shareholders. You are not getting paid to contribute to toxic culture or to seize the means of production. CEO could have been in the wrong, but the moment when the “us vs them” idea starts dominating in corporate culture is the moment company dies and those jobs that everyone is so afraid to loose are ceasing to exist.
>This is ignoring that the concept of companies having to care about shareholders above everything else is a lie spread to justify evil behavior.
Nobody is claiming the “above everything else” here
> Yes, and what is the essence of that labor? It is to create profits for shareholders
No, it's not. I'm not sure what your source of capitalism koolaid is, but employees are transacting labor for money, and shareholders do not come into it at all.
The nature of labor is stocking shelves, writing code, emptying trash bins, or whatever else you do. Full stop.
If you want employees to "think of the shareholders first", you give them enough ownership that the stock price actually makes a major difference in their life, and crucially, enough control at the company to actually influence the stock price. In practice that's the C Suite and maybe some senior VPs. No one else should be stressing out trying to make the owners richer.
This conversation is not about „employees thinking/not thinking about shareholders“. You are cherry-picking that topic and taking it out of context, for what reason exactly?
I have explained already a few times why and what context matters here. Are you struggling to understand it or just avoiding it?
Was the CEO dialing in from the headquarters of an NBA team they owned? Yes.
Were they calling to aggressively dismiss employee claims (without video I cannot prove "yelling", but that is a way that word is used in common parlance)? Yes.
Does downleveling employees have a significant negative impact on their careers? Yes.
> So you are saying that your job does not have any impact on your personality, despite you are there for 8+h a day
(Not OP) It's not a core part of it, no. I'm a person who likes solving problems and has an attention to detail. If I see that something is wrong I have a desire to fix it regardless of it's my responsibility or not. This could be finding an outdated piece of documentation at work or finding a piece of litter on the street.
These traits make me an effective software engineer (up to the senior level, then I have to fight against those parts of my personality and focus on specific high-impact things if I want to succeed at Staff+), but they are a part of who I am totally independent from my career.
Software engineering is a field that I am good at and that pays exceptionally well, but I could be happy utilizing these traits in any number of careers. Were I financially independent, my dream career would probably be something closer to the people who design and build elaborate contraptions for stage shows such as Cirque du Soleil.
I have no faith that this is satire since America is full of people who underestimate the impact of luck and privilege in the course of their life in favor of a view that everything is due to their own personal efforts and the suffering of others is obviously due to their personal defects. These people will relentlessly defend any actions by the owner class without realizing that they themselves are not in that class and never will be. They say things like this a lot.
> It also helps me keep my job during layoffs because I can assure you the managers have noticed.
If you believe the managers who interact with you have any say in who gets laid off, then your understanding of how business works isn't nearly as good as you seem to believe it is.
Having to figure out which distros are "good" or not, with the internet full of people arguing about those points, is another entry on the "why Linux isn't a good choice for most people" list.
It's deeply unhealthy to not have open dissent.
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